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Rats in the roof, filmed on the job

Rodent damage in roof insulation — what rats and mice actually do to your batts

I’m Peter Johnson. I’ve been pulling rodent-damaged insulation out of Brisbane roofs since 1986. It’s the same story in fibreglass batts and polyester batts — rats and mice burrow in, nest, and breed. Here’s what I actually find up there, how fast it happens, and what it takes to fix a roof properly once they’ve moved in.

Pale fibreglass batts torn open and burrowed into by rodents living in the insulation under a metal roof — Edens Landing, 2016

Rodent damage, Brisbane roofs

what I find pulling old batts out

It’s not the roof, it’s what’s up there

A batt doesn’t bring rodents into your roof. It gives them somewhere to live once they’re in.

Rats and mice get into a roof cavity whether there’s insulation up there or not, through a gap in the eaves, a service penetration, wherever they can find a way in. What decides whether that becomes a five-minute visit or a breeding colony is what they find once they’re inside. A fibreglass batt sitting loose between the joists is exactly what a rodent wants: soft enough to burrow into, hidden enough to nest in, and undisturbed enough to breed in. I’ve filmed the damage this causes over time. It’s not subtle once you see it.

Rodent damage in old fibreglass batts after years in a roof

Old fibreglass batts show how much damage rodents cause over time, burrowing and nesting right into them.

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Ok so just up in this roof pulling all the batts out, so as you can see that way I've already done all those bays there, but over here I just got to this bay here and I just wanted to show you something, because this is rats building nice little insulated homes in fibreglass batts. People say that they don't and that, but you can see that batt there's all torn apart and that one there is nice and good, right, and when I lift this up, see, the rat's been climbing in here and climbing in there and he built his little burrow in there, he's been living in there, and when you lift this up, that's all the rat foul on the ceiling where he's been fouling on the ceiling, you know. So probably not a rat, maybe a mouse, but look at that — we are out in the country so could have just been a little mice. But you can see there's damage to all the batts, a lot of batts up here, because of mice. So there's another little hole there, we're having a burrow in there and building a little nest. So it's pretty common in batts for mice to build nice little insulated homes, and so we're going to pull these out and we'll put in cellulose fibre, and I've never ever seen them build nests in cellulose because it won't hold up for them to build a nest.

That’s old fibreglass batts after rodents have had years to work through them. All you can do with a batt like that is pull it out and dump it, there’s no salvaging it. The rodent smell stays behind in the roof timbers even once the batts are gone, which is exactly why I don’t just put fresh batts straight back in. Pumping in Cellulose Fibre Insulation disinfects that smell and leaves the roof a far better environment than what was up there before.

Being fair about it

Polyester batts are a good product. They’re just not a better product for this.

I install polyester batts and I rate them for plenty of jobs, particularly underfloor and acoustic work. It doesn’t solve the rodent problem though. Polyester is still a soft batt sitting loose between the joists. In the roofs I’ve pulled apart a rat burrows into it, nests in it and breeds in it the same as it does in fibreglass. The video below is my own footage of exactly that. If someone’s telling you polyester keeps rodents out, that’s not what I find up there.

Rodent damage in polyester batts — not much better than fibreglass

Rodent damage in polyester batts isn't much better than fibreglass — batts give rodents a place to live, burrow, nest and breed.

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G'day Peter here from Comfort Zone Insulation. I hope you enjoy our next video about insulation and just remember if you need a quote click on the link and we're happy to help you out. Ok so this is up inside this roof that I just showed you and you can see these polyester batts are laid out across the joists, right, so the joists are there and they've put them across them and of course there's air gaps underneath the batt and so the hot air just runs in underneath the batt and the batt might as well not be there because if it's not sitting down on the ceiling it doesn't help. And of course another thing I wanted to point out was that polyester batts all look nice and neat when they're in the packet, they look beautiful, but because they don't have any ability to stop rodents and bugs and things from living in your roof they fill up with rat poo and things like that, so I don't know whether you can see all that rat poo all over that batt there. So there's been a rat, that's where his toilet is and he obviously goes to the toilet there fairly often, but the cellulose fibre rats and mice can't build nests in and they don't make little homes out of it or anything, but they do in polyester batts and fibreglass batts for that matter, so I'll organise all of that like I was saying. Now they've got some light so they've put the polyester batt straight over the top of the exhaust fan, so that's obviously not installed to standard at the moment and creates a potential fire risk, so that's why we get up in the roofs and fix jobs up and bring them up to standard. So yep, all right, I'll hop in and do the job. And this is the stain from that mouse, that if I lift that up, and it stinks, and that's the mouse been living in here and just sitting there pissing everywhere, and I don't know if you can see that all now. Yep, so that's all the shit and piss from mice in the ceiling, but you don't see that when there's no batts. It's only when there's batts — when there's no batts there's no home for mice. So thank you for watching this video.

That’s rodent damage in polyester batts. It looks the same as what I pull out of fibreglass. A soft batt gives rodents a place to live, burrow, nest and breed, regardless of which fibre it’s made from. Choose polyester for what it’s genuinely good at. Don’t choose it expecting a rodent-proof roof.

There’s no set clock on it

3 to 4 years or 20. It depends on the house.

I’ve seen serious rodent damage show up in batts within 3 to 4 years of installation. I’ve seen roofs run 20 years before a colony really gets established. There’s no fixed timeline, it comes down to what’s around the house. A property near a creek or dam, with chooks in the yard, or backing onto bush or a nature reserve gives rodents food and cover close by, so I see worse and faster damage on those blocks than on a house with nothing around it.

That’s worth knowing if you’re deciding whether to check your own roof. A newer house near water or bushland isn’t safe just because the insulation went in recently.

It’s not just the batts

Rodents gnaw pipes and wiring. Snakes follow the rodents.

The insulation is usually the visible mess. It’s often not the expensive part. Rodents gnaw on power and water pipes running through the roof space. I’ve found chewed wiring and split water lines behind what looked, from the manhole, like just a dirty batt job.

The other thing people don’t expect is the smell. Rodent urine and droppings soak into the roof timbers and ceiling sheet over time. That smell lingers even after the rats are gone. The roofs with a bad rodent problem are also the roofs where I’ve come across snakes — I’ve pulled both out of the same ceiling more than once. Where there’s a food supply, something turns up to eat it, so a rodent-infested roof doesn’t stay a rodent problem on its own.

A chewed electrical cable in a roof space, the outer sheath gnawed away and bare wires exposed, rodent damage found on a roof inspection

A chewed electrical cable in a roof space, the outer sheath gnawed away and bare wires exposed. This is what I find behind the insulation, not just in it.

Pulled out, disinfected, done properly

Fouled batts get pulled out and dumped. Cellulose Fibre Insulation is what I put back.

Once a batt is burrowed into and fouled, there’s no cleaning it back to usable, it gets pulled out and dumped. That leaves the smell in the roof timbers and sarking. Putting fresh batts straight back in doesn’t deal with that — a rodent walking past a roof that still smells like the last one picks it up as somewhere rodents live and moves straight back in, so new batts fill up again fast. When I pump Cellulose Fibre Insulation in instead, it disinfects the smell that’s built up in the roof, which is what stops the next rodent being drawn back and leaves a far better environment than the one the rodents were living in.

Where the fibreglass batts are still in reasonable shape, I don’t always pull them out first either. Pumping Cellulose Fibre Insulation over the top of them fills in the gaps and closes off the runs rodents had been using to get around the roof, so there’s no gap left to get back into and nowhere left to keep living.

A rat nest matted into chewed white polyester batt insulation under a roof eave — Ashgrove, 2017

A rat nest matted into chewed polyester batt insulation under a roof eave. Fibreglass or polyester, once it looks like this, it’s going in the skip.

Cellulose Fibre Insulation goes in as a dense, packed blanket rather than a soft loose batt. It’s treated with borate, boric acid and borax. For the fuller picture on why rodents behave differently around cellulose fibre, including how we back that with a standing reward, read rats in your insulation, the $1,000 Rodent Reward.

Already got fibreglass or polyester batts up there?

Do you have fibreglass batts in your roof now? We can quote to remove them or fix your insulation so the smell and the mess don’t stay for the next thirty years.

Or ask about the $1,000 Rodent Reward

Want the roof pumped with Cellulose Fibre Insulation and want it backed with money, not just a promise? Read the Rodent Reward terms and get a quote.

Keep going

The rest of this guide.

This page covers rodent damage on its own. These cover the rest of the batts decision.

Fibreglass batts — what you’re actually buying

Why fibreglass ended up in nearly every Queensland roof and what you’re really paying for.

Read the buyer’s guide

Are fibreglass batts safe?

Particle size, respirable dust and what the manufacturers’ own safety data sheets actually say.

Read the safety guide

Polyester underfloor batts

Where polyester genuinely earns its place and where it doesn’t solve the problem you think it does.

Read the polyester guide

Rats in your insulation? The $1,000 Rodent Reward

Why rodents nest in batts and leave dense cellulose fibre alone, backed with a standing reward.

Read the rats FAQ

Fibreglass insulation removal

Old batts fouled, gappy or full of vermin? We’ll quote to remove them and dispose of them properly or top over them with cellulose fibre.

Removal service

What we actually recommend

Cellulose Fibre Insulation and polyester batts, compared properly.

We install fibreglass batts, Cellulose Fibre Insulation and polyester batts. If you'd rather see the full comparison before deciding, here's where to look.

Cellulose Fibre Insulation

Recycled paper fibre treated with borate, boric acid and borax, made by us at our own factory in Tiaro. Goes in dense and packed, with no soft layer for rodents to burrow into.

Polyester batts

A good product for underfloor and acoustic work. Still a soft batt, so it’s no better than fibreglass against rodents.

Want the full side-by-side across every product we install? Compare Cellulose Fibre Insulation, polyester, fibreglass and foam.

Common questions

Questions about rodent damage in roof insulation.

How long does it take for rodents to damage roof insulation?+

There's no fixed timeline. I've seen bad rodent damage show up in fibreglass and polyester batts in as little as 3 to 4 years. I've seen roofs go 20 years before a colony really gets established. It depends on the house, not the calendar. A roof near a creek or dam, near chooks, or backing onto bush or a nature reserve gives rodents food and cover close by, so damage tends to show up faster and worse in those spots than it does on a block with nothing around it.

Do mice and rats damage polyester batts as well as fibreglass batts?+

Yes. Polyester is a genuinely good insulation product. In the roofs I've pulled apart rats nest in it as readily as they do in fibreglass — there's a video of exactly that further up this page. Both are soft batts sitting loose between the joists, so a rat or mouse can burrow into either one, build a nest in it, and breed there. If you're choosing polyester over fibreglass, do it for the reasons polyester is actually better, not because you think it'll keep rodents out.

What do rodents actually do to insulation once they're in the roof?+

They burrow into the batt and nest right in it. A batt doesn't attract rodents in the first place. They get into the roof cavity regardless of what's up there. Once they're in, a soft batt gives them somewhere warm and hidden to live, burrow and breed. That's the difference between a rat passing through and a rat setting up house.

Do rodents in the roof damage anything besides the insulation?+

Yes. It's often the more expensive part. Rodents gnaw on power and water pipes running through the roof space, which can mean a chewed-through water line dripping into your ceiling or damaged electrical wiring. The insulation is usually the visible mess. What's chewed into the pipes and cabling above it is the part that costs real money to fix.

Why does rodent-damaged insulation smell, and does it attract snakes?+

Rodents living in a batt roof leave urine and droppings behind. That smell settles into the roof space and lingers. The roofs with a bad rodent problem are also the roofs where I've come across snakes — where there's a food supply, something turns up to eat it. So a rodent-infested roof doesn't just smell bad, it can bring in the next problem behind it.

Can rodent-damaged fibreglass or polyester batts be cleaned, or do they need replacing?+

Once batts are burrowed into and fouled, they can only be pulled out and dumped. There's no cleaning a soiled batt back to a usable state. The smell stays in the roof timbers and sarking even after the batts are gone. That's the point where I pump in Cellulose Fibre Insulation instead of putting more batts back in. It disinfects the smell in the roof and leaves a far better environment than what was there before.

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